Q: Tell me about Kairos Philanthropy.A: I started it in 2004, as a social enterprise law firm and consulting practice focusing on living and leaving a legacy and providing access to justice. Expanding my knowledge in the area of philanthropy, I focused my research and interest in corporate social responsibility and public policy. After all Bermuda is arguably a successful capitalist jurisdiction that needs to attend mindfully to the shadow of exclusion and marginality resulting in poverty for many.Q: What is a 'social imagineer'?A: It is a person who brings their skills and knowledge to the forefront in terms of trying to bring a fresh approach to resolving some of our core social problems. In essence you look at public policies and say, 'how could we improve on this'? It is about how do we engage the stakeholders, the people who are living in this community.Q: Aren't politicians supposed to do social imagineering?A: No, I'm afraid that doesn't work particularly well. I started a social enterprise (Kairos) and realised government is just not in a position to do this. Government has a $1 billion budget and professionalised politicians, but the representation of the people is less than I think the people would like. This is why I have moved on to doing a doctorate degree in this, because I think we need to map that landscape of the tragedy the gap between the hugely successful financial economy and hugely failing social economy.Q: What do you mean by the social economy?A:The social economy is really about what the people need and the people want. The financial economy is well shored-up. We have fabulous services and the gross domestic product (GDP) is the third highest in the world. We have an ultra-wealthy jurisdiction, but we have abject unemployment, and reduced access to health care and affordable housing. Housing is a basic human right that is just not being attended to as mindfully. So in terms of the work I have been doing and studying it became really clear to me that there needs to be something done about this. As I was exploring what I would like to do I came across this emerging concept of social imagination. Being a bit of a career expert, I thought 'let me dabble in this'. Now I am working hard to move from social warrior to social engineer. As an attorney, I have been fighting these battles for 13 years and I feel very much that I am serving poverty and not solving the issues. In a country as rich as Bermuda, we have the money, the expertise and talent. We could do this.Q: You are getting a doctorate in this?A: The creativity and the opportunity to create transformative conversations forms the methodology for my Phd. I am really just trying to get people to start talking. I am hoping that in the talking we learn about each other from grassroots through to Cabinet, from boardrooms through to those who are homeless on the beaches. It is hard to bear witness to what is happening here. If you can see it and talk about it and hear someone's pain, then maybe we can link into our shame of doing nothing, and act on that. Bermuda is such an artificial society as a holiday destination. We still look like a holiday destination, with a very businesslike core in town. It looks luscious and prosperous. It is easier to think they have a problem, when in fact the majority of locals are one mortgage or one rental away from being homeless. For a lot of people, all it takes is one redundant notice. It is sad because it doesn't have to be that way.Q: I understand you are writing a book about social imagineering?A: The structure of this book is around why social imagination is necessary, with what it is and some examples, through to the creating of social imagineers, how to implement the vision, then rounding out with what we can expect in the second decade fo the 21st century. The conclusion brings us full circle in the hopes of starting a maturing conversation on social imagination and social imagineers.Q: I understand you wrote a song for the documentary 'Poverty in Paradise'.A: I am hoping to turn it into a music DVD, very similar to what 'Proud to be Bermudian' has done.